{"id":66653,"date":"2023-07-11T14:57:22","date_gmt":"2023-07-11T22:57:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cannabiscultivatornews.com\/home\/index.php\/2023\/07\/11\/bryan-gerber-ceo-of-hemper-hara-supply-gets-candid\/"},"modified":"2023-07-12T19:45:46","modified_gmt":"2023-07-13T03:45:46","slug":"bryan-gerber-ceo-of-hemper-hara-supply-gets-candid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cannabiscultivatornews.com\/home\/index.php\/2023\/07\/11\/bryan-gerber-ceo-of-hemper-hara-supply-gets-candid\/","title":{"rendered":"Bryan Gerber, CEO of Hemper, Hara Supply Gets Candid"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cannabiscultivatornews.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-TEa-Party-Box-1.jpg\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\"> <\/p>\n<p>Known in the industry as the \u201cKing of Cones,\u201d Bryan Gerber is co-founder and CEO of the popular smoking accessory subscription box Hemper, and the rolling paper manufacturing company Hara Supply, which is on its way to becoming the world\u2019s largest distributor of pre-rolled cones. With an entrepreneurial spirit, mind for innovation and love for cannabis, it\u2019s no wonder Gerber finds himself at the head of two successful and growing brands. And Gerber\u2019s making it clear he has no plans on stopping here\u2014there\u2019s always room for improvement.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cannabis Now: Which came first, Hemper or Hara Supply?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bryan Gerber:<\/strong> I started <a href=\"https:\/\/hemper.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Hemper<\/a> a week after I graduated from GW [George Washington University] back in 2015. And then, with <a href=\"https:\/\/harasupply.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Hara<\/a>, we kind of morphed into our brands and our supply horseplay started in early 2018. Every three years, we\u2019ve identified a new step function opportunity to kind of plough into and take market share. That\u2019s kind of the timeline.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: I\u2019d love to hear the backstory of how you go from a college graduate to leading one of the most recognized brands in cannabis.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG: <\/strong>So, I\u2019ve been a user for quite a few years. Early on, probably about tenth grade, I was put on Adderall. One of the things that really calmed me down at the end of the day was cannabis use. And then I graduated. My background is in accounting and information systems. Originally, I thought I was going to be pre-med, but I figured out I could help people in a different way. I graduated college on May 18, 2015, and I started Hemper on June 1, 2015. We originally launched as a discovery outlet called the Hemper Box. Every month, you\u2019d receive a new set of premium products for $30 per month\u2014part replenishable, part discovery, part necessity.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-TEa-Party-Box.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/cannabiscultivatornews.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-TEa-Party-Box.jpg\" alt=\"Hemper tea party cannabis box\" class=\"wp-image-66097\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Hemper\u2019s Tea Party Box.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>CN: How do you keep the subscription box fresh and exciting?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG: <\/strong>I looked at all the other subscription services\u2014Birchbox, FAB Fit, Dollar Shave Club\u2014and where each of them succeeded and where they faltered. Then, I went back to product development. The idea was: \u201cLet\u2019s start designing our own products and push them through the subscription box\u201d\u2014kind of as our own Trojan Horse marketing outlet that\u2019s paid for. We got feedback from thousands of consumers overnight and then went to distribution and retail partners and showed them the data of why it\u2019s popular and why they should put it into their stores. It was one of the first data-driven approaches to smoking accessory product development. That\u2019s what we did for the first three years of business.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: How has the business evolved?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG<\/strong>: Fast forwarding, we\u2019ve developed more than 300 products in the lab. We\u2019ve been doing this for nine years now. But we\u2019ve kind of turned into more of a Procter &amp; Gamble approach, developing brands outside of Hemper. <a href=\"https:\/\/hemper.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Hemper.com<\/a> has now become one of the largest own branded marketplaces for discovering smoking accessories. We\u2019re now at about 30,000 subscribers for those packages. And we\u2019ve serviced more than two million customers in nine years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: In the subscription box industry, some are gold mines, and some are disasters. How did you guys survive and thrive in that environment? What would you say differentiates Hemper\u2019s success?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG:<\/strong> When I first started it, there were already five boxes doing something. And then there were five more after us. What I identified was everyone was kind of cheapening out on the brands and products. So, I used slightly more premium brands in the box with the same price point, and I was just better at marketing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: Can you share some marketing tips with other business owners out there?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG:<\/strong> The fact that I know people want to own something and be a part of a community is very important. The three Cs of e-commerce are community, commerce and content. We really excelled at that side. And we emphasized Hemper as a stand-alone brand. I also identified early on that with just the box alone, you can\u2019t scale a business. So, let\u2019s take these products that are winners and move them through distribution and retail\u2014that\u2019s how we\u2019re going to pay for our overhead. It was kind of a simple evolution in my eyes, but a lot of people missed the boat on that.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-vaporstation.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/cannabiscultivatornews.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-vaporstation-683x1024-1.jpe\" alt=\"Hemper Box\" class=\"wp-image-66098\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Hemper only includes high-quality products in its subscription boxes.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>CN: And when it comes to creating new products, what\u2019s the big takeaway there?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG:<\/strong> As cannabis consumers, we\u2019re able to identify what consumers are looking for because we\u2019re kind of those Alpha buyers ourselves. That really set us apart. I think a lot of people get into business, and they don\u2019t love and partake in what they\u2019re selling or doing. And I think that really came through in our products, where we were really trying to deliver functional, affordable, awesome stuff to people every month.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: Keeping with the theme of authenticity, how do you maintain that on social media? How do you genuinely engage with your followers while also trying to drive sales and introduce new products?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG:<\/strong> Well, if we just pull apart what High Tide did, they rolled up six of the top online headshops plus Daily High Club. They turned every single one of those websites into a discount or store. So, there\u2019s nothing special about them and they don\u2019t have brands; they\u2019ve got marketplaces, and they\u2019re pretty much the same thing across all five sites. There\u2019s really nothing unique setting them apart anymore. If you go look at their social media and you look at their website, it is that \u201c50% off, come by our bong today\u201d messaging. They lost out on the community aspects. I think they lost out on the product development aspects. I think they lost out on a lot of different things. And I think we\u2019ve stayed true to the brand and our core ethos this entire journey, and I think that\u2019s really what separated us.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\/weeds-answer-to-jobs-zuckerberg-and-bezos\/\">High Tide<\/a> has people all over the world working on these sites, and you don\u2019t really get that community aspect from people working from home in multiple countries. It\u2019s hard to deliver that personal touch. We\u2019re able to still do that even though we\u2019ve scaled our business to new heights every year. And I think that\u2019s probably why we\u2019ve been so much more successful.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-Blue-Whale.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/cannabiscultivatornews.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-Blue-Whale.jpg\" alt=\"Hemper blue whale box\" class=\"wp-image-66094\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Hemper\u2019s Blue Whale Box.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>CN: How does Hara Supply factor into all this?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG<\/strong>: Along the way, we got this interesting opportunity to start manufacturing pre-roll cones, and there was this massive shortage in the market. Because cones are handmade, and you need a labor arbitrage show, it\u2019s hard to scale\u2014and you can only do it in a few countries. My college roommate at GW, RJ, is Indian, so we were able to go over to India, where we were already producing glass and a few other products, and we set up our first cone factory within 90 days. And then, I walked into our first customer, which was an existing customer called Kush Bottles. They basically gave us a half-a-million-dollar purchase order that day because our lead times were six weeks compared to Futurola, which was 15 weeks. As long as we could meet the quality standards, we were in business.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: And that business clearly seems to be thriving. What\u2019s the current size of the operation?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG:<\/strong> We\u2019re now the largest manufacturer of pre-roll cones and combustibles in the industry; we produce over 100 million cones a month for the market. We do all your vanity brands, from the Jeeters and STIIIZYs of the world to your top MSOs. We produced some 1.2 billion cones last year, and we\u2019re growing and scaling, becoming more of a solutions partner to the cannabis brands and MSOs where we\u2019re diving into the product teams and marketing teams, helping them create new skews and where the markets going and trend analysis on micro consumption and different paper substrates and different filter tip styles and things like that and creating custom tooling for automation equipment. You name it, we are becoming that solutions partner for this industry.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: What European rolling paper partner do you work with for <strong>Hara Supply<\/strong>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG<\/strong>: We acquire our rolling paper from Don Levin, so we\u2019re using the finest French rolling paper in the world.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: How important is sustainability and incorporating the average consumer\u2019s desire for organic, all-natural options that are safer on your lungs? Is that part of the company ethos?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG: <\/strong>Yes. When we set up the cone factories, we wanted it to be the most certified facility in the world. We are GMP-certified, ISO-certified, FSC-certified, HACCP certified. We\u2019ve got gluten-free, halal, vegan\u2014you name it, we\u2019re pretty much on it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: Do you have kosher certification?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG: <\/strong>We <em>do<\/em> have a kosher certification. Sorry\u2014I forgot about that one. So, we\u2019re basically making cones in clean rooms. And it\u2019s unfortunate\u2014a lot of companies in the space are buying cones out of sweatshop companies, and they\u2019re buying stuff from China and there are child labor issues. We really wanted to clean it up and provide our workers with proper medical care and things like that. It\u2019s a different approach; our costs are higher. And so, whenever we get a customer coming back to say, \u201cHey, any cheaper? This other Joe Schmo in India said you can get it to me for cheaper,\u201d and I say, \u201cYeah, that\u2019s because he\u2019s got dirt floors and kids rolling cones.\u201d A lot of companies support that, which is unfortunate. We really wanted to clean that side up, and we have.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-Trippy-Box.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/cannabiscultivatornews.com\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Hemper-Trippy-Box.jpg\" alt=\"Hemper trippy mushroom box\" class=\"wp-image-66093\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Hemper\u2019s Trippy Mushroom Regular Box.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>CN: The last time <em>Cannabis Now<\/em> covered your brand was back in 2019. At that time, you had anticipated that the market for legal cannabis was going to be worth $146 billion by 2025. Do you feel like we\u2019re on track to hit that number? Or do you think it\u2019s going to be way larger than any of us ever predicted?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG: <\/strong>I get asked this a lot. I think that for my company that if you take, for example, Swisher, most of the people buying Swisher products are gutting them and putting cannabis in it\u2014 98% of people\u2014and they\u2019ll tell the FDA it\u2019s the opposite: 98% are smoking them outright and 2% are recreational. So, if you look at that, they sell four billion cigarillos a year. We\u2019re talking serious money and if you look at just the paraphernalia side of the cannabis industry, it\u2019s worth billions, not including the cannabis side itself. I think we\u2019re going to probably get some new regime here in office and maybe push things forward, but I don\u2019t see it going federal or anything like that even past 2025. I don\u2019t think we\u2019re going to be able to figure out how the states and the federal government are going to play nice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: Speaking of new regimes, are you or your brands active in supporting any kind of political or nonprofit groups?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG: <\/strong>We participate in supporting the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lastprisonerproject.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Last Prisoner Project<\/a> and more recently, we\u2019ve been working with the <a href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\/40-tons\/\">40 Tons group<\/a>. We love supporting the social equity side of the industry. I think it\u2019s super important. We do have a program here called Hemper Helps, in which every year, we donate to certain charities.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: Final question. What\u2019s on the big vision board for the next ten years?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BG: <\/strong>Scaling Hara into more of a solutions partner, continuing to clean up this industry and helping guide the great consolidation here. I\u2019m super excited to get our products into mass-market convenience stores. One of the most fulfilling things for me is when you walk into a random headshop and you see your stuff on the shelf. The feeling is like no other. It\u2019s going to be cool seeing everything at 7-Eleven and all those chains. And then, hopefully, we\u2019re going to expand internationally. We\u2019re already doing it. We\u2019ve been selling into South America, South Africa and Australia. We just picked a new distributor in Barcelona recently; we\u2019ve got a lot of stuff cooking on the European side. So, we\u2019re excited about all the opportunities right now. If we can just keep our focus up and stick to our core, we\u2019re going to be successful.<\/p>\n<p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\/bryan-gerber-interview\/\">Bryan Gerber, CEO of Hemper, Hara Supply Gets Candid<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\">Cannabis Now<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#013;<br \/>\n&#013;<br \/>\nRead More: <a href=\"https:\/\/cannabisnow.com\/bryan-gerber-interview\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bryan Gerber, CEO of Hemper, Hara Supply Gets Candid<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Known in the industry as the \u201cKing of Cones,\u201d Bryan Gerber is co-founder and CEO of the popular smoking accessory subscription box Hemper, and the rolling paper manufacturing company Hara Supply, which is on its way to becoming the world\u2019s largest distributor of pre-rolled cones. 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